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Delta Flyer 05-24-2006 12:12 PM

Which is the Riskiest Investment?
 
Which is the Riskiest Investment?

Archslater 05-24-2006 12:27 PM

Re: Which is the Riskiest Investment?
 
Say what you want about Barry, but he always seems to make a profit.... much more than can be said about the others. Union has only helped him.

Katz6768 05-24-2006 12:43 PM

Re: Which is the Riskiest Investment?
 
Barry Bonds is an American baseball player isn't he ?

I have both Ford and GM bonds, yes there are risky, but so far my yield is 5.5% with Ford and 11.1 % to 13.8 % with GMAC.

I am concerned and dissapointed with their cars, but on the financing side I have faith on the American people buying their product for a while yet.

williaea 05-24-2006 01:37 PM

Re: Which is the Riskiest Investment?
 
Of course the yields are high. That's cause they are going into bankruptcy in a few years and you'll never get your principle back! :-)

Just trying to start a trouble here - my crystal ball isn't any clearer than anyone elses.

Eric

Delta Flyer 05-24-2006 01:56 PM

Re: Which is the Riskiest Investment?
 
What has more "juice" - an FEH or Barry Bonds?

Archslater 05-24-2006 02:04 PM

Re: Which is the Riskiest Investment?
 

Originally Posted by Delta Flyer
What has more "juice" - an FEH or Barry Bonds?

The battery in the FEH is likely less toxic....

AshenGrey 05-24-2006 02:20 PM

Re: Which is the Riskiest Investment?
 
Ford seems to be more adaptable than GM. But are they adaptable ENOUGH? That's a question that's yet unanswered.

As it stands now, I think there's an 80% chance that Ford will be around in 10 years. I give GM about 50% chance.

Archslater 05-24-2006 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AshenGrey
Ford seems to be more adaptable than GM. But are they adaptable ENOUGH? That's a question that's yet unanswered.

As it stands now, I think there's an 80% chance that Ford will be around in 10 years. I give GM about 50% chance.

They will definitly be around, the govt' will make sure of that at tax payer's expense. (see Chrysler in the mid-80's).

lakedude 05-24-2006 04:32 PM

Re: Which is the Riskiest Investment?
 
Ford has the hybrid Escape. Sure it is an SUV and the technology came from Toyota but at least they have a hybrid.

GM has ???? A pickup that is sorta like a hybrid that only a few people can buy?

I currently own a Ford and a Chevy. As nice as the Vette is in some ways it is a piece of dung in others. Nothing about my Ford is special but it does not have any major issues either.

GM is old and gotten fat living on SUV "cream". They are ripe for a heart attack.

I honestly hope GM pulls their head out and gets back on track but I doubt they can.

AZCivic 05-24-2006 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by williaea
Of course the yields are high. That's cause they are going into bankruptcy in a few years and you'll never get your principle back! :-)

Typically bond-holders are the first ones that have to be repaid in bankruptcy court. Before suppliers, stock holders, and even employees in some cases. Typically being the bond holder of a very large company is safe, even when they are technically "junk" bonds.

Didn't Chrysler repay all their bonds even after they went bankrupt? I recall some stories about how they were one of the best investments you could make because the raw assets of the company exceeded the cost to repay all the bonds, thus guaranteeing you'd get your money back, even if the company was sold off as scrap.


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