So, let's say I were to purchase this unit because my FEH did not come with the Nav system. Would I be able to install it myself, or does there need to be extra wiring work to install it? Of course, I only have the 4 basic speakers - no tweeters or sub in my SUV - but I wouldn't think that that would make a huge difference. I'm just worried about hooking up the head unit and having it work properly.

 

Hi Elaine,

The '05 FEH came with the unit as a stand alone unit W/ 7 speakers. Walt posted right after me and says if you want the unit stand alone, it only comes with 4 speakers. This makes sense because there is a separate connection from the Nav unit to the Subwoofer Amplifier which you wouldn't have. The Smart Juction Box must supply separate power to the subwoofer amplifier and to the additional speakers. If Walt is right, you may be able to make it work just by plugging it into the existing plugs.

The question would be, does the new unit for sale have the Nav antenna and the energy connections. One other interresting thing to note is that my FEH does not display the average MPG on the dash like the non Nav FEH. If I were to purchase that unit, I would have it installed by the dealership, and perhapes ask them first. Many here have that knowledge and would most likely switch out or modify the connections to make it work. Also, a radio installer could most likely do the same.

From what I see from the pictures, the unit includes the 6 CD changer which could mean the package is for a upgrade which you would be making. Everything you need may be included, email him and ask.

GaryG

 

I don't see the CD changer in the pictures... am I missing it? Also... If it does have the changer..... wouldn't you still have to get power and connections to the changer which is likely a harness that isn't in her vehicle? And of course whatever differences are in the harness for the Hybrid power functions might not be in her vechicle either...

If I were building the things the harnesses would be there because its easier to fit out each vehicle differently, but I'm not sure what Ford does.

Don't worry Elaine I'm not going to bid on it I already have one.

 

Hi Tim

I thought that unit to the right of the Nav unit had a slide cover door on the end like the 6 CD changer? You disagree? Maybe I'm looking at it wrong.

GaryG

 

Well... the link leads to a posting with two pictures. The left picture is clearly the front of the NAV, but I THINK the right picture is just the backside of the NAV showing the connections. If thats a slide door on the right side of the picture, the connections are exiting the bottom/top of the changer. That isn't right. It looks more like the NAV's rear to me, but I've never had it out of the dash either.

 

Tim, I think your right because that clamp at the bottom looks like it slides onto a bracket that holds the Nav unit in the dash. That many connections is not for a 6 CD changer.

So bottom line would be, it is not a complete unit and other components would need to be purchased. No telling the need for the wiring requirements.

GaryG

 

The second picture is definitely the back of the head unit, with the nylon slider that allows the unit to slip into the dash. It looks just like the back of the radio from my '98 Explorer.

I noted that the seller does not take Paypal or any other protected form of payment. The seller is also from the Kansas City area, where the FEH is assembled.

Caveat emptor!

 

I was going by Ordering Guide. Both the one for the '07 FEH and the one for the '07 MMH state "1 Includes 4-speakers when ordered as a stand alone option. Includes 7-speakers when ordered as part of Premium Package."

Does it even have the separate/external Audiophile (320-watt) amps too? Or it is just the "head unit"?

| I went back and re-read the eBay posting. He does specifically state
| that it is just the head unit ("THIS IS A NEW HEAD UNIT"). It might
| be safe to assume that it does not include the CD changer, nor the
| Audiophile amps.

 

Yea, he wants cash up front. Basically "trust me, but I will not trust you". That might be why the original buyer backed out.

 

The gripes I've had with it, one of which I've got a workaround for are:

It absolutely refuses to route me on HOV only roads in the Wash D.C. area (specifically I-66 inside the beltway). I've not found a user configurable option that makes the unit avoid HOV.

The inability to allow the passenger to search for points of interest while in motion. I've since fixed this with the toggle switch in the Vss signal line to the unit.

This is not a Nav system gripe but a CD player usability gripe; there is no pause function for the CD player or CD DJ unit. My other Ford vehicles (Windstar and F150) have a Pause button. If I'm listening to a CD and need to take/make a phone call I have to go to Radio then mute the unit. At least they could have configured the mute button to pause the CD or CD DJ