Oil Leak
#11
Re: Oil Leak
I do it "hand tight" but fairly tight. On something like this that does not have a lot of stress or strain on it ( like wheel lugs for example ) it does not need to be "as tight as possible". Also, too loose on your lugs, and your wheel comes off and that could kill someone. An oil filter too loose means at worst, it will leak, probably by a tiny amount. I would then soon detect the leak ( on my garage floor ) and the give it another 1/4 turn.
So far, I've never had any leak at all.
Plus, I like the tactile feedback of doing it by hand.
You really can "feel" when it is "just right".
But I did put a decent amount of "umph" onto it.
Somtimes, after it is baked on there for 10,000 miles, it will still take a tool to get it off next time. I never use any tools on the disposible metal canister filters on my other cars. It is #1 easier on me, and #2 it is the correct way.
-John
So far, I've never had any leak at all.
Plus, I like the tactile feedback of doing it by hand.
You really can "feel" when it is "just right".
But I did put a decent amount of "umph" onto it.
Somtimes, after it is baked on there for 10,000 miles, it will still take a tool to get it off next time. I never use any tools on the disposible metal canister filters on my other cars. It is #1 easier on me, and #2 it is the correct way.
-John
#12
Re: Oil Leak
I do it "hand tight" but fairly tight. On something like this that does not have a lot of stress or strain on it ( like wheel lugs for example ) it does not need to be "as tight as possible". Also, too loose on your lugs, and your wheel comes off and that could kill someone. An oil filter too loose means at worst, it will leak, probably by a tiny amount. I would then soon detect the leak ( on my garage floor ) and the give it another 1/4 turn.
So far, I've never had any leak at all.
Plus, I like the tactile feedback of doing it by hand.
You really can "feel" when it is "just right".
But I did put a decent amount of "umph" onto it.
Somtimes, after it is baked on there for 10,000 miles, it will still take a tool to get it off next time. I never use any tools on the disposible metal canister filters on my other cars. It is #1 easier on me, and #2 it is the correct way.
-John
So far, I've never had any leak at all.
Plus, I like the tactile feedback of doing it by hand.
You really can "feel" when it is "just right".
But I did put a decent amount of "umph" onto it.
Somtimes, after it is baked on there for 10,000 miles, it will still take a tool to get it off next time. I never use any tools on the disposible metal canister filters on my other cars. It is #1 easier on me, and #2 it is the correct way.
-John
Out of concerns about people here only hand tightening the filter cap or letting someone else change their filter, I looked up torque specifications for the filter cup. Since the correct filter wrench has a 3/8" ratchet attachment, it could be it is designed for a torque wrench.
In the '05 Workshop Manual section 303-01C-3 Engine - Escape Hybrid 2.3L Torque Specification it says the Oil Filter cup torque is 33Nm or 24 lb-ft.
Does anyone have any concerns or comments about these torque specifications?
GaryG
#13
Re: Oil Leak
Thanks Gary, I was wondering if Ford had published a torque spec for the filter cup. 24 lb-ft doesn't sound excessive, but I'll need to get a wrench on it to know for sure how it feels. At that torque I'm guessing the cup could not be unscrewed by hand.
#14
Re: Oil Leak
My gut feeling was 24 Ft/Lbs was more than I expected.
Are you sure it's not 24 inch/pounds?
( or 2.4 foot/pounds )
Just did a quick internet search.
An Aircraft quality torque wrench for "spin on" oil filters only measures from zero to 17 ft/pounds.
I found another page for automotive spin-on filters that says 15 ft/pounds is recommended.
Of course, ours is not the same style.
Are you sure it's not 24 inch/pounds?
( or 2.4 foot/pounds )
Just did a quick internet search.
An Aircraft quality torque wrench for "spin on" oil filters only measures from zero to 17 ft/pounds.
I found another page for automotive spin-on filters that says 15 ft/pounds is recommended.
Of course, ours is not the same style.
Last edited by gpsman1; 10-15-2007 at 09:51 AM. Reason: more info
#15
Re: Oil Leak
Yep its 24 lb/ft its the same for the Fusion with the 2.3L which uses the same filter and housing. That is not that tight and is at the lower limit of a 3/8 torque wrench. 24 lb/ft would break a 4mm bolt but not a 6mm.
#16
Re: Oil Leak
GaryG
#18
Re: Oil Leak
Incidently, I have a pet peeve with the factory over tightening things. I partially rounded my oil drain plug with an almost new 6 point Craftsmen socket. I was very worried I would not be able to get the plug out. A few years ago, on my (then) new Dodge truck, I crushed the factory filter with a removal tool before I finally got it off and had to use a foot long pair of channel locks to remove the oil filler cap for the first time.
#19
Re: Oil Leak
I was looking for the oil filter torque value, thanks for the information. Does anyone know the oil drain plug torque? This is my first post, but I gained a great deal of knowledge from reading the forum. Thank you all who take time to share your knowledge.
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