Buying a Used Ford Escape
#21
Re: Buying a Used Ford Escape
Pretty much my feelings as well. I knew I was giving up some MPG getting the AWD, but an SUV without AWD just doesn't make sense for my purposes. I can get better MPG than an Escape Hybrid if FWD is all I want.
#22
Re: Buying a Used Ford Escape
That system is refer to in Ford articles as a "On Demand" system but I fail to see the demand every time one leaves from a dead stop on dry hard pavement.
#23
Re: Buying a Used Ford Escape
I have a very long enterance ramp to a x-way in my area and while coasting, I always notice it will engage for a split second, just a few percent.
BTW: The 2013 Escape has a dash icon showing torque to each wheel. Since the Ford's 4WD/AWD can only devert torque between the front/rear, I'm not sure how it can show each wheel unless they mean TC. I've seen one owner complain that it shows nothing!
#24
Re: Buying a Used Ford Escape
There's a big difference between saying the system activates at times that seem pointless and saying that the system does nothing and any perceived advantage is a placebo affect.
#25
Re: Buying a Used Ford Escape
One of those Specialists wrote that under heavy throttle the system all torque to the rear so the front has more steering control. You can mash the pedal to the floor and get a bit over 30%.
A Ford site even had a graphic showing torque being deverted side to side through as "S" curve road. That was pulled since it don't work that way at all.
#26
Re: Buying a Used Ford Escape
By far the best real life situation I have ever read about the system. Did the TC kick in as well?
I have a very long enterance ramp to a x-way in my area and while coasting, I always notice it will engage for a split second, just a few percent.
BTW: The 2013 Escape has a dash icon showing torque to each wheel. Since the Ford's 4WD/AWD can only devert torque between the front/rear, I'm not sure how it can show each wheel unless they mean TC. I've seen one owner complain that it shows nothing!
I have a very long enterance ramp to a x-way in my area and while coasting, I always notice it will engage for a split second, just a few percent.
BTW: The 2013 Escape has a dash icon showing torque to each wheel. Since the Ford's 4WD/AWD can only devert torque between the front/rear, I'm not sure how it can show each wheel unless they mean TC. I've seen one owner complain that it shows nothing!
#28
Re: Buying a Used Ford Escape
Watched my ScanGauge on the way home from work. Under acceleration I regularly exceeded 30%. Highest I noticed was just over 63%.
Several of us have now disputed your claims that the system does nothing (the definition of a placebo). We've backed them up with real experience driving the vehicles.
You clearly have a chip on your shoulder regarding Fords AWD system, and don't let facts get in the way of your argument. I'm done.
Several of us have now disputed your claims that the system does nothing (the definition of a placebo). We've backed them up with real experience driving the vehicles.
You clearly have a chip on your shoulder regarding Fords AWD system, and don't let facts get in the way of your argument. I'm done.
#29
Re: Buying a Used Ford Escape
Watched my ScanGauge on the way home from work. Under acceleration I regularly exceeded 30%. Highest I noticed was just over 63%.
Several of us have now disputed your claims that the system does nothing (the definition of a placebo). We've backed them up with real experience driving the vehicles.
You clearly have a chip on your shoulder regarding Fords AWD system, and don't let facts get in the way of your argument. I'm done.
Several of us have now disputed your claims that the system does nothing (the definition of a placebo). We've backed them up with real experience driving the vehicles.
You clearly have a chip on your shoulder regarding Fords AWD system, and don't let facts get in the way of your argument. I'm done.
I never said that it did nothing. I said that it doesn't do what ads leads one to believe.
Your a noobie, I'm not but I don't own a Hybrid but have an Escape with 4WD which brought me to this forum after seeing some pictures of SG screens posted elsewhere by a user. That's back when I belived it was a "On Demand System" and the pictures showed differently.
I put lots of effort into learning how the system really works and if you care to learn something too, you can read the whole thread here: https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...uage-ii-21592/.
#30
Re: Buying a Used Ford Escape
It's a placebo effect. If you had a ScanGuage II to monitor rear wheel torque you'd really see when it engages. It's more hype than fact.
Here's an interesting video comparing different systems including the Escape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktoGVBR4op4
Here's an interesting video comparing different systems including the Escape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktoGVBR4op4
Nonsense...you are knowledge base challenged on this issue.