if youre looking for legal help and advice then youre no longer interested in getting the most out of your car.
yeah, maybe this blogger/lawyer described the problem the best way he could and that's OK for anyone who's not gonna give you any solution anyway. and the Car Talk web site guys are always out of their league when talking about about any hybrid car let alone a complex car like the hch2.
there is plenty of good explanations and advice from those who really know their stuff and have the results to show. TIP: look for engineers who own these cars and write about them cause they are the only ones who can explain the real stuff and help you get the most out of your car. they helped me and others like me and im sure they can help you too.

ks

 

we don't need hype to help your cause. if you do not like the vehicle anymore, trade it in or if you want the old software, have them put it back to your car. maybe that should correct your troubles. class action doesn't help you personally but provides income to the lawyers. what do you get in return, a free oil change coupon?

have the forum figure out your problem if it is similar to what they are having instead of hate to the company.

 

I think the only way to do that is to replace the car's computer, ie: it's not possible to reverse an upgrade just with software.

 

Try this Forum: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ef86546/

 

I noticed this post. We have a 2007 HCH with about 45K, and the software update made the CVT much smoother from a start (it used to jerk in). Mileage averaged over life of the car (trip B -- never reset so it might be last 1K miles) is 40.9. Now it's doing around 37.

I got the software update done and now the battery dies and has to recharge more often. I bought a 2011 Outback (with the 2.5 and CVT, PZEV certified) and we are selling the HCH.

I would agree that this car has been a disappointment overall.

But I will say that Honda's nav from Alpine is better than the Kenwood systems in Subi and Toyotas. We also have a 2007 Pilot AWD which is all around a good car, but averages 16.5 MPG around town.

Getting 26 MPG actual overall in the Subi and since that car is big enough for the entire family, I love it. THe CVT and the paddle shifters are much better than the HCH.

This is a great car if you want to be green and get away from Hybrids. It is also manufactured in the greenest car factory in the world.

NW

 

That behaviour can be deceptive. The battery is likely slowly deteriorating. But when you see the state of charge suddenly drop to zero bars, and the car starts the recalibration behaviours, it hasn't "died". What has happened:

The car's computer calculates the battery's state of charge indirectly, based on where it was, how much electricity it's requested, how much it's recharged. With an ailing battery, it will make a request for electricity, find the battery is struggling to accomplish that request, and decide it's perception of state of charge is inaccurate, and initiate recalibration.

One of the first symptoms of a recal starting is state of charge dropping to zero bars, or two bars, post software update.

 

Well now it is almost a month after my last post, and the current tank with 280 miles on it is saying 35.4MPG -- hybrid battery recharges daily. This is after I took the car into Honda and complained and they suggested my 12 volt battery was bad (have a 120K mile zero deductible warranty -- Honda Care) -- but they say the 12V battery is bad and not covered -- I know this is BS but between kids and work -- just gotta get it done -- so I pay $140 for a $55 WalMart battery.

I mean basically this car is a total failure -- now gets 35 MPG vs. 43 when I bought it. Honda will certainly replace the battery under emissions or Honda Care warranty, bla, bla, bla.

Just stay away from this car!!!!!!

DW

 

Does anyone Know if the 2010 has the updated software, I have the 2010 and just passed 20k miles and mpg with AC on is now 44+. I couldn't be happier and wondering if the 2006-8 models are different at least in the firmware .

Maybe the chip set can't handle the new software flash, mechanically they should be the same.

 

I'm so glad I sold my HCH II.....

I put the money in savings and placed an order for a Chevy Volt.