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xoham 07-13-2006 11:37 AM

An Early Retirement For The Hydrogen Fuel Cell
 
This will be interesting to those thinking ahead to hydrogen fuel cell cars. Apparently it will be some other kind of fuel cell.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/energy.../message/92573

bwilson4web 07-13-2006 12:33 PM

Re: An Early Retirement For The Hydrogen Fuel Cell
 

Originally Posted by xoham
This will be interesting to those thinking ahead to hydrogen fuel cell cars. Apparently it will be some other kind of fuel cell.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/energy.../message/92573

Finally, some common sense is starting to show up! Still, I think air-metal cells are really the way to go but then I'm funny that way.

Bob Wilson

Freeze 07-13-2006 08:53 PM

Re: An Early Retirement For The Hydrogen Fuel Cell
 

Originally Posted by bwilson4web
Still, I think air-metal cells are really the way to go but then I'm funny that way.

Bob Wilson

Good to know. I used to do heavy metal air guitar in high school 20 years ago. I bet it's similar, huh?;)

clett 07-14-2006 04:04 AM

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"By laws of physics, hydrogen economy can never compete with an electron economy".

Finally, the world seems to have woken up to the obvious! Why throw away 75% of the energy you worked so hard to make?

clett 07-14-2006 04:07 AM

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Oh wait, I like this one even better!

"Physics cannot be replaced by wishful thinking, or changed by presidential initiatives"

I wonder if GM are still ignoring the physics of hydrogen?

Pravus Prime 07-14-2006 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by clett
Oh wait, I like this one even better!

"Physics cannot be replaced by wishful thinking, or changed by presidential initiatives"

I wonder if GM are still ignoring the physics of hydrogen?


Of course, they're working on the Warp Drive to the moon! :P

hsolo142 07-14-2006 05:26 PM

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The worst part is the billions of dollars GM has squandered driving to develop cars based on this technology. If that money had been spent on realistic alternatives such as hybrid technology, the U.S. may have been in a leadership position (at least from a technology perspective) by now. Embarrassing. And we continue to reward their stupidity with our own by continuing to purchase gas guzzlers from them. Takes one to know one.
:(

It's amazing the level of unbridled selfishness Americans exhibit. Fed by the greed of the 80's, capped by the dot-com hysteria of the 90's. Wake up people. It's the era of global responsibility...

bwilson4web 07-15-2006 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hsolo142
The worst part is the billions of dollars GM has squandered driving to develop cars based on this technology. If that money had been spent on realistic alternatives such as hybrid technology, the U.S. may have been in a leadership position (at least from a technology perspective) by now. Embarrassing. . . .

GW's hydrogen program was used to defund Al Gore's "High Mileage Vehicle" program. The last year, it included hybrids from all US manufacturers including a hydraulic hybrid pickup truck, an opportunity lost.

When you find yourself in a hole, the first step is to stop digging.

Bob Wilson

hsolo142 07-15-2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bwilson4web
When you find yourself in a hole, the first step is to stop digging.

I guess you know when to stop digging when you can longer see the light coming in from the top of the hole.

bwilson4web 07-15-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hsolo142
I guess you know when to stop digging when you can longer see the light coming in from the top of the hole.

Don't forget that management and pundits are standing on the shoulders of the workers, directing the digging of the hole and claiming that not enough progress is being made because of the worker's health-care, benefits and pay.

Bob Wilson


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