TOV: Honda Fit to get 105hp 1.5L, though deliver only 37mpg?
#12
Re: TOV: Honda Fit to get 105hp 1.5L, though deliver only 37mpg?
Hold on fellas: Is some of this negativity fueled by rumours? Nothing I can find on the web indicates that the US Fit will be that thirsty at all....
http://fitfreak.net/
this page has it at 56.5 MPG:
http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000847028934/
There has been no official announcement yet, and no Road Tests of the USA Version?
This page says combined 51.4 MPG US:
http://www.triplepundit.com/pages/hy...azz-001503.php
Another page says this:
I'd say all this Honda Bashing might be better off waiting until we see something confirmed from Honda - or do we already and I have missed it?
http://fitfreak.net/
this page has it at 56.5 MPG:
http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000847028934/
There has been no official announcement yet, and no Road Tests of the USA Version?
This page says combined 51.4 MPG US:
http://www.triplepundit.com/pages/hy...azz-001503.php
Another page says this:
New cars burn insanely clean and even non hybrid cars can get great mileage. Like the coming soon to the USA Honda Fit a 45/60 mpg gas powered car.
Last edited by lars-ss; 11-15-2005 at 01:29 PM.
#14
Re: TOV: Honda Fit to get 105hp 1.5L, though deliver only 37mpg?
Originally Posted by lars-ss
Hold on fellas: Is some of this negativity fueled by rumours? Nothing I can find on the web indicates that the US Fit will be that thirsty at all....
http://fitfreak.net/
this page has it at 56.5 MPG:
http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000847028934/
There has been no official announcement yet, and no Road Tests of the USA Version?
This page says combined 51.4 MPG US:
http://www.triplepundit.com/pages/hy...azz-001503.php
Another page says this:
I'd say all this Honda Bashing might be better off waiting until we see something confirmed from Honda - or do we already and I have missed it?
http://fitfreak.net/
this page has it at 56.5 MPG:
http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000847028934/
There has been no official announcement yet, and no Road Tests of the USA Version?
This page says combined 51.4 MPG US:
http://www.triplepundit.com/pages/hy...azz-001503.php
Another page says this:
I'd say all this Honda Bashing might be better off waiting until we see something confirmed from Honda - or do we already and I have missed it?
The 51.4-56.5 MPG you mentioned seems to be more inline with the 1.3L Fit/Jazz that is available in Europe/Asia equipped with the CVT. The tape supposedly mentions that the U.S. will be getting a 1.5L with a 5 speed automatic.
Just like everyone here, I hope TOV's source is wrong and that we do indeed get the 1.3L with the CVT.
#15
Re: TOV: Honda Fit to get 105hp 1.5L, though deliver only 37mpg?
That fitfreak website has two problems, both stemming from the fact it appears to be a European website. Number one, their FE figures are always more conservative than our EPA numbers, which many argue are at the conservative end of the American driver spectrum. Second, those are typically in imperial gallons. 1 gal imp = 1.2 gal standard. So 48mpg IMP would be like 40mpg standard, which if you further adjust for the difference between euro and EPA standards would be maybe high 30's.
#16
Re: TOV: Honda Fit to get 105hp 1.5L, though deliver only 37mpg?
lol at this rate i'm going to get a used hybrid for the same price as a new honda fit!!!
NO CVT? WOW that was one of the reasons i wanted the fit in the first place, the crazy 7 speed CVT! GJ HONDA way to sell out your north american fans i'm off to toyota!
NO CVT? WOW that was one of the reasons i wanted the fit in the first place, the crazy 7 speed CVT! GJ HONDA way to sell out your north american fans i'm off to toyota!
#17
Re: TOV: Honda Fit to get 105hp 1.5L, though deliver only 37mpg?
EPA standards would be maybe high 30's.
--- Well, that's about what the Toyota Echo gets. They're both inexpensive, no-frills entry-level cars. You can't expect a sub-$14k car to get hybrid-level gas mileage.
--- Well, that's about what the Toyota Echo gets. They're both inexpensive, no-frills entry-level cars. You can't expect a sub-$14k car to get hybrid-level gas mileage.
#18
Re: TOV: Honda Fit to get 105hp 1.5L, though deliver only 37mpg?
but the honda fit in japan with the DSI 1.3 (same engine in 06 hybrid) gets almost 25 K/ a litre! that's nearly 4 litres/100 km.... so in the 60 mpg almost. that's highway but still that's VERY IMPRESSIVE for a small car with no hybrid stuff. on other reviews and such people managed 10 to 15 K a litre in crawl slowing traffic, thanks to the efficient CVT.
PFF now i have to cruise in 1st and 2nd gear in slow *** traffic? #@$@#$#@ that.
PFF now i have to cruise in 1st and 2nd gear in slow *** traffic? #@$@#$#@ that.
#19
Re: TOV: Honda Fit to get 105hp 1.5L, though deliver only 37mpg?
Hi All:
___Getting hybrid like FE is easy in a car weighing in at between 2,200 and 2,400 #’s with the HCH-I or II’s ICE. Gear it exactly the same and leave IMA out of it. You may lose a 1 second in the 0 - 60 dash w/ the loss of IMA and gain most of that back because of the lower weight. If the aerodynamics are similar with the Fit having a smaller frontal area and maybe another .02 Cd, the Fit should receive exactly what the HCH-I or II does on the highway. Saying it shouldn’t is Honda’s internal politics telling the engineers to not let it receive the FE of the almost twice as expensive HCH-II, pure and simple. I am really ticked if Honda releases the Fit at just 32/37 city/highway. For a speculated < $1,000 more, you can purchase the much larger and already well established Toyota Corolla and receive better FE! The Corolla may be small but when looking at the B-Class sized sub’s, (Aveo and Aerio), they are really really small.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Getting hybrid like FE is easy in a car weighing in at between 2,200 and 2,400 #’s with the HCH-I or II’s ICE. Gear it exactly the same and leave IMA out of it. You may lose a 1 second in the 0 - 60 dash w/ the loss of IMA and gain most of that back because of the lower weight. If the aerodynamics are similar with the Fit having a smaller frontal area and maybe another .02 Cd, the Fit should receive exactly what the HCH-I or II does on the highway. Saying it shouldn’t is Honda’s internal politics telling the engineers to not let it receive the FE of the almost twice as expensive HCH-II, pure and simple. I am really ticked if Honda releases the Fit at just 32/37 city/highway. For a speculated < $1,000 more, you can purchase the much larger and already well established Toyota Corolla and receive better FE! The Corolla may be small but when looking at the B-Class sized sub’s, (Aveo and Aerio), they are really really small.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
#20
Re: TOV: Honda Fit to get 105hp 1.5L, though deliver only 37mpg?
**** ^ if they do that.. .that means they want you to buy the civic hybrid instead to get those figures!
**** marketing ugh when you think a car has everything you want they have to split it in two so that they can convince you to buy both or the more expensive model!
such horse radish and i was beggining to believe in honda every since they rolled out "safety for everyone" on their civics. considering old civics scored very poorly on crash tests. Therefore you know Honda is listening to us and making it better BUT NOT LIKE THIS
**** marketing ugh when you think a car has everything you want they have to split it in two so that they can convince you to buy both or the more expensive model!
such horse radish and i was beggining to believe in honda every since they rolled out "safety for everyone" on their civics. considering old civics scored very poorly on crash tests. Therefore you know Honda is listening to us and making it better BUT NOT LIKE THIS