88,000 miles on a used FEH. Good or bad idea?
#41
12-19-2008, 01:54 PM
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Re: 88,000 miles on a used FEH. Good or bad idea?
The proof is in the pudding Willard.
Come over to my house and taste the pudding.
Take a drive in my FEH and see.
Else, it's egg on your face instead.
To clarify, the FEH regen ability is not disabled or reduced due to outside air temperature. If you keep your battery warm by parking inside, or using a 120 VAC heater, you will get full regen brake at down to -16'F which is as cold as I have tested it in. You get regen at every throttle lift at -16'F too. I've had the car in the northern mid-west and Rockies for 4 winters.
I've NEVER EVER had a case where regen started to make me lose control on ice or snow. Regen in the FEH is the smoothest form of brake there this.
Maybe this is the main point you are missing???
And finally, there is only a "clutch" with regard to the ICE.
There is no clutch between the drive to the wheels and the electric motors. If the wheels are moving, by push, pull, tow, or gravity coast, the motors are turning too. This is true with the key "on" and "off".
The motors are allowed to free wheel spin, with the electrical contacts open during a tow. Everything you "preach" in this thread is myth and conjecture. Your background knowlege does not apply to the FEH.
This is where a paradigm shift is required.
Conventional wisdom does not apply to a non-conventional car.
Come over to my house and taste the pudding.
Take a drive in my FEH and see.
Else, it's egg on your face instead.
To clarify, the FEH regen ability is not disabled or reduced due to outside air temperature. If you keep your battery warm by parking inside, or using a 120 VAC heater, you will get full regen brake at down to -16'F which is as cold as I have tested it in. You get regen at every throttle lift at -16'F too. I've had the car in the northern mid-west and Rockies for 4 winters.
I've NEVER EVER had a case where regen started to make me lose control on ice or snow. Regen in the FEH is the smoothest form of brake there this.
Maybe this is the main point you are missing???
And finally, there is only a "clutch" with regard to the ICE.
There is no clutch between the drive to the wheels and the electric motors. If the wheels are moving, by push, pull, tow, or gravity coast, the motors are turning too. This is true with the key "on" and "off".
The motors are allowed to free wheel spin, with the electrical contacts open during a tow. Everything you "preach" in this thread is myth and conjecture. Your background knowlege does not apply to the FEH.
This is where a paradigm shift is required.
Conventional wisdom does not apply to a non-conventional car.
#42
12-19-2008, 08:19 PM
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Re: 88,000 miles on a used FEH. Good or bad idea?
The proof is in the pudding Willard.
Come over to my house and taste the pudding.
Take a drive in my FEH and see.
Else, it's egg on your face instead.
To clarify, the FEH regen ability is not disabled or reduced due to outside air temperature. If you keep your battery warm by parking inside, or using a 120 VAC heater, you will get full regen brake at down to -16'F which is as cold as I have tested it in. You get regen at every throttle lift at -16'F too. I've had the car in the northern mid-west and Rockies for 4 winters.
I've NEVER EVER had a case where regen started to make me lose control on ice or snow.
Isn't this moreso confirmation of my points than not..??
Regen in the FEH is the smoothest form of brake there this.
Sorta my point, EXACTLY...!!
Maybe this is the main point you are missing???
Doesn't it actually MAKE my point, exactly..??
And finally, there is only a "clutch" with regard to the ICE.
There is no clutch between the drive to the wheels and the electric motors. If the wheels are moving, by push, pull, tow, or gravity coast, the motors are turning too.
Yes, and arn't those motors equipped with permanent magnet rotors..?
This is true with the key "on" and "off".
The motors are allowed to free wheel spin,
If the "motors" are allowed to free wheel spin they become generators by default (remember those permanent magnet rotors), generating voltage, enough voltage, unless somehow limited, to damage the solid state electronics.
with the electrical contacts open during a tow. Everything you "preach" in this thread is myth and conjecture. Your background knowlege does not apply to the FEH.
This is where a paradigm shift is required.
Conventional wisdom does not apply to a non-conventional car.
Come over to my house and taste the pudding.
Take a drive in my FEH and see.
Else, it's egg on your face instead.
To clarify, the FEH regen ability is not disabled or reduced due to outside air temperature. If you keep your battery warm by parking inside, or using a 120 VAC heater, you will get full regen brake at down to -16'F which is as cold as I have tested it in. You get regen at every throttle lift at -16'F too. I've had the car in the northern mid-west and Rockies for 4 winters.
I've NEVER EVER had a case where regen started to make me lose control on ice or snow.
Isn't this moreso confirmation of my points than not..??
Regen in the FEH is the smoothest form of brake there this.
Sorta my point, EXACTLY...!!
Maybe this is the main point you are missing???
Doesn't it actually MAKE my point, exactly..??
And finally, there is only a "clutch" with regard to the ICE.
There is no clutch between the drive to the wheels and the electric motors. If the wheels are moving, by push, pull, tow, or gravity coast, the motors are turning too.
Yes, and arn't those motors equipped with permanent magnet rotors..?
This is true with the key "on" and "off".
The motors are allowed to free wheel spin,
If the "motors" are allowed to free wheel spin they become generators by default (remember those permanent magnet rotors), generating voltage, enough voltage, unless somehow limited, to damage the solid state electronics.
with the electrical contacts open during a tow. Everything you "preach" in this thread is myth and conjecture. Your background knowlege does not apply to the FEH.
This is where a paradigm shift is required.
Conventional wisdom does not apply to a non-conventional car.
And the way I see things the only non-conventional aspect, break-through technology, of the HSD is the e/CVT.
Last edited by wwest; 12-19-2008 at 08:23 PM.
#45
12-23-2008, 07:54 AM
Re: 88,000 miles on a used FEH. Good or bad idea?
i bought a 05 feh back in aug. with 82,000 the water pump let right away but otherwise than that i've had awsome luck with it i now have 88,000 on it everything is fine i a'm going to buy another for a cheap vehicle to drive i love the milage my best tank yet is 530 mte. i paid 11,900 for mine from a private owner it has a bumper to bumber 100,000 warrenty so mine was a steal for the price.i hope you bought it for that price.
check out the KBB value lol record deal there i think
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