DIY Repair of traction blend door actuator
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At this link: http://www.escape-city.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1229 is a DIY guide for repair of a known issue. There are photos as shown here: Attachment 3101
Can anyone now do this repair and post "real" photos to make the job even easier? |
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This is a scanguage xguage photo of a normal working traction motor blend door of a 4WD vehicle.
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I'd be game to tackle this (been getting an intermittent wrench light on my new-to-me 08), but what do I do when I get to step 16?
16. Reprogram the Traction Battery Control Module (TBCM) to the latest calibration using IDS release B52.5 and higher with Patch 7. |
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Originally Posted by Billyk
(Post 214854)
This is a scanguage xguage photo of a normal working traction motor blend door of a 4WD vehicle.
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Cool. Thanks Billy. And Carl.
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Originally Posted by stevedebi
(Post 214883)
I would think that the code would be the same for FWD as AWD... or do you know differently?
Try it and report back on the findings. |
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Originally Posted by Billyk
(Post 214915)
I hope everyone realizes this information is from Carl (Desert Dog) and not from me. For the 4wd version TXD 076xxxx is used instead of 045xxx.
Try it and report back on the findings. |
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so if i want to check my blend door operation...i just get a scanguage2 ..hook it up and..???? what parameters am i checking? What do other 3 numbers mean...and what is 0000DTC??/ I have 06 mariner hybrid with 138kmiles....and want to make sure things are working properly...i got the dreaded wrench light that went away after next startup....so id like to get SC2 and catch the code sometime
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Go to scanguage.com and read up on this piece of hardware that you have to program (input) "numbers" to display information.
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Mijohnst, they're suggesting you program an "x-gauge" on a SG2 to read the blend door status.
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When blend door should be opened? My door have newer been opened during 5 year of operation. Air circulating in closed loop through air cond. evaporator when it is hot.
Recently I had a/c problem and driving with hot battery frequently checking that door with running engine and battery's fans, door was always closed. After replacing of a/c condenser and recharging system my battery is cold and door closed again. So what for this door? |
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Originally Posted by Stranger
(Post 225518)
When blend door should be opened? My door have newer been opened during 5 year of operation. Air circulating in closed loop through air cond. evaporator when it is hot.
Recently I had a/c problem and driving with hot battery frequently checking that door with running engine and battery's fans, door was always closed. After replacing of a/c condenser and recharging system my battery is cold and door closed again. So what for this door? |
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I've been getting the wrench light on and off for a couple of months now, so I decided to change out the blend door actuator on my 2007 FEH.
Here are a few hints for anyone doing it themselves. The Ford part number is 8L8Z 19E616E or Motorcraft # YH1750. I bought mine at Rock Auto, $20 delivered. When removing the large plastic rear quarter panel trim piece, there is a push pin located on the rear of the rear door scuff plate. You need to pop open this trap door and release the push pin to release the big trim panel. I also had a difficult time getting access to the top, outboard screw that holds in the actuator. I ended up removing the steel bracket that mounts on the D pillar. There is a bolt up under the headliner that must be removed - tricky to get to. Once the bracket was removed, I was able to tilt the whole assembly a little farther inboard and access the last actuator bolt with a small box end ignition wrench. Total time was about 1.5 hours start to finish. I took the old actuator apart to see if there was an obvious failure mode, but all I saw that looked suspicious were the little spring steel brushes that rotate with the gear to keep it from over rotating. They must wear out and lose contact periodically. This would explain the on again, off again nature of the problem. Poor design. |
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Originally Posted by travelover
(Post 227701)
I've been getting the wrench light on and off for a couple of months now, so I decided to change out the blend door actuator on my 2007 FEH.
Here are a few hints for anyone doing it themselves. The Ford part number is 8L8Z 19E616E or Motorcraft # YH1750. I bought mine at Rock Auto, $20 delivered. When removing the large plastic rear quarter panel trim piece, there is a push pin located on the rear of the rear door scuff plate. You need to pop open this trap door and release the push pin to release the big trim panel. I also had a difficult time getting access to the top, outboard screw that holds in the actuator. I ended up removing the steel bracket that mounts on the D pillar. There is a bolt up under the headliner that must be removed - tricky to get to. Once the bracket was removed, I was able to tilt the whole assembly a little farther inboard and access the last actuator bolt with a small box end ignition wrench. Total time was about 1.5 hours start to finish. I took the old actuator apart to see if there was an obvious failure mode, but all I saw that looked suspicious were the little spring steel brushes that rotate with the gear to keep it from over rotating. They must wear out and lose contact periodically. This would explain the on again, off again nature of the problem. Poor design. |
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Originally Posted by Matt D
(Post 230202)
I have to do the change on mine. Did you re-flash the BCM?
And have you had any issues since you replaced it? |
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I completed this job a while back with good results. It's not a difficult job. I've documented the procedure with pictures. To view retrieve a copy of the document/instruction manual I developed go to the link below.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...ENseUVCdjR1VFE Numerous people have followed these instructions with great success. Good luck! -Corey |
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Hello All:
I was going to order the traction blend door actuator part online for $20 and shipping but wanted to fix this weekend and paid $34 to my local Mercury parts dealer for my 2006 Mercury Mariner. Quick Run Down: ~Took the left side rear interior panel off the car and it snapped open fairly easily. ~ Be prepared and locate some small sockets 7/32 and a 7/32 open end wrench to get to the one hard to get bolt on the actuator (inside one) :lightbulb I probably took more apart than needed but I removed the lower duct section on the floor of the Mariner and then removed the top plastic area that holds the air filter too. I removed the part then the electrical connection. The actuator door is a small plastic piece that sits between the actuator and the car plastic insert. Upon placement of the new part I spent a little more time trying to get the door to stay in the upward position and got it close and put two quick bolts I ended up starting the car and it put the door closed perfect for the actuators. :cry: I can say afterwards I did not immediately put the trim panels back to ensure all was okay. My mileage for the drive at 35-45 city driving went back to 34 MPG and this made me feel it was worth my 2-4 hours today. :confused: FYI: This was not a hard job but more of a time consuming one with all the little bolts. No electrical resynchronizations are needed. :P |
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Great posts!!!! Very helpful ..
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Originally Posted by corski67
(Post 232410)
I recently completed this job. It's not a difficult job. I've documented the job with pictures. To view a slide show go to the link:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Familyc...JSRx9DckszaDw# If you'd like a document that you can print, email me at corski67@hotmail.com and I'll send you a word document with the whole progression with instructions. -Corey |
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I have recently been shopping for another used vehicle and stumbled upon this problem in numerous forms - All having to do with a faulty blend door actuator. This little actuator is found in the heating systems of virtually all newer vehicles, and based on the plethora of forum posts for all makes and models, this is an extremely common failure item. In my browsing, I found a pretty nicely outlined "refurbish" for these clever little actuators. It turns out that they typically fail because of grease and/or oxidation more than any other reason. So... For the ambitious DIY'ers out there - Here is a guide for refurbishing your blend door actuator.
:lightbulb:lightbulb:lightbulb:lightbulb:lightbulb :lightbulb:lightbulb:lightbulb:lightbulb:lightbulb :lightbulb http://forums.corvetteforum.com/othe...-actuator.html |
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Just replaced the blend door actuator in my vehicle, and the tips here really helped. I also did not replace the third screw ( Hard one to get to ) that holds the actuator in, just in case I have to do this again in the future.
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Going to be taking on this job in a few days. same as B4 but i don't have a warranty, this time it's a DIY!
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I changed mine today. A little bit tougher then I thought it would be but not bad. I had 1 of the 7/32 little screws left and spend at least 15 minutes looking for where it belonged but couldn't.
I opened up the old one and gave it a pretty good looking at. the brushes/ carbon contact which others thought was a problem seemed o-k to me. I did find signs of arcing and heat on the contacts for the motor. I will solder the motor to the contacts and clean up-grease up the rest and keep it as a spare. Thanks to everyone who posted photos and help here. |
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It’s been 2 weeks and I have not seen the service soon light so guess it is fixed. The motor has solder tabs which someone decided they could put it in spring contact holders and work, well it works for a while. I think the problem is bad motor contacts. Mine showed signs plenty of arcing and that would get worse with time and vibration until a reliable contact could not be made. Would like to hear other people’s thoughts on this. Anyone else notice this on the motor contacts?
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Originally Posted by guerinkeywest
(Post 240696)
.......... Would like to hear other people’s thoughts on this. Anyone else notice this on the motor contacts?
I came to the same conclusion when I opened up my old actuator. It is in a post around here somewhere. |
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I just got this done yesterday and the only part that confused me was the instructions for the 2 nuts on the lower assembly. The only 2 lower nuts I saw were underneath the car near the A/C lines, so I removed the nuts, lifted the entire assembly up an inch or so, and was able to swing the entire thing inboard to remove that single outboard actuator screw. Turns out the actuator I replaced was the original part # --- not bad for a 2008 with 79k miles on it I suppose, but what a lame design.
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I think I may have to take on this repair soon. My '08 is giving me the wrench light.
I wanted to ask about the step instructing you to reprogram the TBCM. Travelover mentioned not doing it. For others here, was that just skipped? Thanks, T |
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Originally Posted by tommyball
(Post 247350)
I think I may have to take on this repair soon. My '08 is giving me the wrench light.
I wanted to ask about the step instructing you to reprogram the TBCM. Travelover mentioned not doing it. For others here, was that just skipped? Thanks, T |
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Same here -- didn't reprogram anything and haven't had a problem since. And mileage is back up to low 30s from 27. :D
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Thanks!
Wow that much of an MPG boost? Mine has dropped, but I assumed it was due to a number of other factors. |
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Originally Posted by tommyball
(Post 247359)
Thanks!
Wow that much of an MPG boost? Mine has dropped, but I assumed it was due to a number of other factors. However, the next time I drove it the MPG had dropped even more to 27.x, which is when I also saw the wrench light. Once I replaced the actuator the MPG shot back up to the low 30s and has stayed there for over a month now. Roughly the same weather conditions too so figure it had to be the actuator replacement that corrected it. |
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Wow. Good to know.
I always got an MPG of 28-30, but in the past several months its been about 26, all based on the Gas Cubby iPhone app. In that time I've bought new tires, replaced the MECs pump and moved from MD to TX where my weekly commute is almost 175 miles less. I figured between the tires, roads, possibly different fuel mix and a 6 mile drive to work with heavy AC use, I was getting a drop. I ordered the actuator from Ford Parts Giant. So hopefully I can tackle that installation (it doesn't look any worse than replacing 4 speakers and the OEM stereo) and get rid of the wrench light and reclaim a few MPG. Thanks! -t. |
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Originally Posted by tommyball
(Post 247372)
Wow. Good to know.
I always got an MPG of 28-30, but in the past several months its been about 26, all based on the Gas Cubby iPhone app. In that time I've bought new tires, replaced the MECs pump and moved from MD to TX where my weekly commute is almost 175 miles less. I figured between the tires, roads, possibly different fuel mix and a 6 mile drive to work with heavy AC use, I was getting a drop. I ordered the actuator from Ford Parts Giant. So hopefully I can tackle that installation (it doesn't look any worse than replacing 4 speakers and the OEM stereo) and get rid of the wrench light and reclaim a few MPG. Thanks! -t. |
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Originally Posted by stevedebi
(Post 247373)
Actually, that short commute is most likely the culprit.
GaryG |
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I'm now at 151,000 miles. As far as I know my 8 year old blend door is still working.
What I have always thought was really dumb is..... The battery cooling fans are variable speed. Dandy. But they always turn slowly when in EV mode for noise abatement. Well, in EV mode is when I use the most battery amperage and generate the most heat! So it is a vicious cycle. Last night it was 55 degrees outside and my battery hit 88 degrees, closed the blend door and turned on the A/C compressor. I hate that. :angry: I have long wanted manual control of the battery fans. |
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Originally Posted by GaryG
(Post 247374)
My blend door light came On for 40,000 miles till I sold my '05. It never affected my MPG at all. The shorter commute, coolant pump, and the new tires are most likely the cause of the lower MPG.
GaryG -t |
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Originally Posted by tommyball
(Post 247477)
How would the coolant pump effect MPG? Because it's a new part that needs breaking in?
-t |
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Originally Posted by tommyball
(Post 247477)
How would the coolant pump effect MPG? Because it's a new part that needs breaking in?
-t GaryG |
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Originally Posted by GaryG
(Post 247480)
No, when the electronics get hot, you don't go EV. This will drop your MPG because the engine is running more.
GaryG I had my MECS pump replaced in August in the middle of my 1500 mile move from MD to TX. I noticed the mileage drop in the months after the MECS replacement, new tires and a much shorter commute. I should have quoted myself to be more clear. Sorry. -t |
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I replaced the actuator today.
All in all, not too difficult, but that last screw is really tough to get to. Hopefully that wrench light will stay off for now. Thanks to all here for the tips and advice on this DIY repair! -t. |
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