Fed up with Ford
#21
Re: Fed up with Ford
Originally Posted by bigsweeps
Oh - another option for me to consider is to go with a FWD instead of 4WD. If I go with FWD, I can get one fully loaded (with premium pkg and moonroof) for the same MSRP as my "broken" truck (which only has leather pkg, nav, appearance pkg and safety pkg). The only negatives that I can think of is a)resale and b)I live in New England and 4WD does come in handy in the winter. Positives are a)better tax credit and b)better gas mileage. Any thoughts?
#22
Re: Fed up with Ford
Originally Posted by brick
4WD isn't really necessary, even in New England. I grew up in MA, went to school in upstate NY, and now I'm in CT. I started with a RWD Volvo, replaced it with a FWD Volvo w/ traction control, and now have FWD Accord w/o traction control. All three cars have had a good set of snow tires and not once have I had trouble. (Ok, once with the first car but that was because I switched back to my rain tires too early.) A couple of years ago I was caught in a very bad squall north of Stowe, VT in Volvo #2. AWD and 4WD SUVs and trucks were sliding all over the place but I just kept on moving up the hills. Not only that, but the car could stop, which 4WD won't help with.
To tell you the truth I liked the handling characteristics of RWD the best, but my FWD cars have yet to fail me in the snow.
To tell you the truth I liked the handling characteristics of RWD the best, but my FWD cars have yet to fail me in the snow.
Rather than win the battle to lose the war, you would be better off taking the deal and then vote with your legs the next time you are looking for a new vehicle.
#23
Re: Fed up with Ford
Originally Posted by Chilly
I can understand not wanting to give them another dime after this issue. But in the end you are actually coming out ahead. Your 2005 has surely depreciated more than $900 dollars, so if you were to try and sell it on you own and go with a different ride you would be out a lot more than the $900. Don't get me wrong, I fully appreciate where you are coming from, I am just saying don't let your frustration get the better of you.
Rather than win the battle to lose the war, you would be better off taking the deal and then vote with your legs the next time you are looking for a new vehicle.
Rather than win the battle to lose the war, you would be better off taking the deal and then vote with your legs the next time you are looking for a new vehicle.
17,800mi x 0.44 = $7,832
That includes gas...so lets say just for example you get 28mpg and you paid an average of 2.75 per gallon.
17,800mi/28mpg = 635.7 gal used x $2.75 = $1,748.17
$7,832 - $1,748.17 - $900 = $5,183.83
I realize you're pi$$ed at Ford....but consider this a $5,183 payment for your troubles. (That doesn't even include the decrease $$ for a 2005-06 upgrade).
Nate
#24
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who knows you can give the 06 another try and shoot for 60 mpg if you want to milk the living crap out of your escape.
GaryG has reached those numbers before if you don't mind having a max speed of 35 mph.
GaryG has reached those numbers before if you don't mind having a max speed of 35 mph.
#26
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Well, after plenty of consideration - I decided against another FEH. Since Ford was making me select something of equal MSRP, I narrowed my choices down to the 2007 Sport Trac Limited or the '06 Freestyle. After driving both, the Sport Trac won (even considering the crappy gas mileage). I may just drive it for a few weeks and trade it in on a Prius - still haven't decided.....but at least I'm rid of the lemon. Using the techniques I learned with my FEH (minus the dragging the brakes), I was able to get 22mpg on my ride home from the dealer (all backroads)....it's only supposed to get 15mpg around town so I was proud.
DH is happy with his HCH (behind my truck).....he just got his vanity plate approved (which we weren't expecting)......it's "F-OPEC" LOL!
Of course, having my gas guzzler parked next to it sort of ruins the effect......
DH is happy with his HCH (behind my truck).....he just got his vanity plate approved (which we weren't expecting)......it's "F-OPEC" LOL!
Of course, having my gas guzzler parked next to it sort of ruins the effect......
#28
Re: Fed up with Ford
Originally Posted by elwood58
You will really enjoy the SportTrac. We still have our 2001, and it is going strong. I get up to 24 on the highway.
The 2006 SportTrac is a redesign of the frame and interior. Much better product IMO.
The 2006 SportTrac is a redesign of the frame and interior. Much better product IMO.
I'm glad you're happy with yours elwood58.....that gives me hope that I will be happy with mine.
#30
Re: Fed up with Ford
Well - just to follow up - the Sport Trac was getting less than desireable fuel economy. Best I could do was 17mpg average - and that was really going slow and trying to squeek everything I could out of it. If I drove "normally", best I could get was 14mpg. It had to go. Beautiful truck - but with gas prices rising, I needed to get rid of it - and fast!
I looked at just about everything out there - from a Toyota RAV4, a Scion XB, Chevy HHR to a Honda Element. I'll admit - I hated the looks of the Element before I went to test drive it - but my husband pushed me to go look at it. Once I climbed inside and saw all the cool features, I was intrigued. I took it for a test drive and instantly fell in love. It was so much fun to drive! The price was right too (under $21K for a fully loaded AWD model). Well, I was lucky enough to find a dealer who bought my Sport Trac - so I'm now the proud owner of a new Element and couldn't be happier. My only concern was fuel economy - but frankly anything was better than the Sport Trac at this point. Several Element owners convinced me that the fuel ratings were actually conservative and that I wouldn't be disappointed. They were right. I'm getting about 26mpg with a mix of highway and city driving - which isn't much less than I got in my FEH. So now I've lowered my payments significantly (my FEH was $32K and the Element is just under $21K) and have a more versatile vehicle (the seats folding into a bed to go camping is too cool).
I realize that most people here are happy with their FEH's and will probably critisize my decision - but if you lived through what I did - I would bet you would have never wanted another Ford again either. LOL!
I looked at just about everything out there - from a Toyota RAV4, a Scion XB, Chevy HHR to a Honda Element. I'll admit - I hated the looks of the Element before I went to test drive it - but my husband pushed me to go look at it. Once I climbed inside and saw all the cool features, I was intrigued. I took it for a test drive and instantly fell in love. It was so much fun to drive! The price was right too (under $21K for a fully loaded AWD model). Well, I was lucky enough to find a dealer who bought my Sport Trac - so I'm now the proud owner of a new Element and couldn't be happier. My only concern was fuel economy - but frankly anything was better than the Sport Trac at this point. Several Element owners convinced me that the fuel ratings were actually conservative and that I wouldn't be disappointed. They were right. I'm getting about 26mpg with a mix of highway and city driving - which isn't much less than I got in my FEH. So now I've lowered my payments significantly (my FEH was $32K and the Element is just under $21K) and have a more versatile vehicle (the seats folding into a bed to go camping is too cool).
I realize that most people here are happy with their FEH's and will probably critisize my decision - but if you lived through what I did - I would bet you would have never wanted another Ford again either. LOL!