I want to remove the front passenger seat
#1
I want to remove the front passenger seat
I need to carry a bunch of cargo and want to remove that seat temporarily.
I asked a Honda dealer to do it and they said, "No".
They said if I put a person there and drove and there was an accident I could try to sue Honda.
How stupid! I hate this litigious culture we live in.
Fear of lawsuits paralyzes us.
Has anyone removed that seat themselves?
Would this void my warranty?
I'd be happy to pay Honda to reinstall it.
I asked a Honda dealer to do it and they said, "No".
They said if I put a person there and drove and there was an accident I could try to sue Honda.
How stupid! I hate this litigious culture we live in.
Fear of lawsuits paralyzes us.
Has anyone removed that seat themselves?
Would this void my warranty?
I'd be happy to pay Honda to reinstall it.
#2
Re: I want to remove the front passenger seat
The only way to get the seat out is to do it yourself, or an indy mechanic. Honda will not touch it unless its broken.
Looks like it's 14mm bolts, but the rear ones are under a plastic cover. Should not be difficult, just move the seat up or back to get to whichever. Do the back ones first since the seat will fall back if you remove the fronts. Undo the airbag sensor harness before you jerk it out or you will have a bad day.
Looks like it's 14mm bolts, but the rear ones are under a plastic cover. Should not be difficult, just move the seat up or back to get to whichever. Do the back ones first since the seat will fall back if you remove the fronts. Undo the airbag sensor harness before you jerk it out or you will have a bad day.
#3
Re: I want to remove the front passenger seat
There ar 4 bolts to remove, two in the front and two in the rear the plastic covers on the rear have to be removed, and a wire harness for the SRS, now when you re-instal the seat you will have to have the SRS (air bag system) fault cleared. Or else the air bags will not deploy if needed.
Have fun.
Have fun.
#4
Re: I want to remove the front passenger seat
I don't think you are correct here. If you do not turn on the ignition while it is disconnected, there will be no fault recorded. And even if you do, the airbag will still deploy. A fault code will not disable its function.
#5
Re: I want to remove the front passenger seat
I called Honda USA.
They said no dealer will do it.
If I do it the entire SRS airbag system may not operate.
Other airbags may not deploy when needed.
Plus they said if I do it myself I will void the warranty.
I'm not doing it.
They said no dealer will do it.
If I do it the entire SRS airbag system may not operate.
Other airbags may not deploy when needed.
Plus they said if I do it myself I will void the warranty.
I'm not doing it.
#6
Re: I want to remove the front passenger seat
They gave you the corporate liability lawyer answer. The real-world-where- we-all-live answer is that it is no problem. The SRS will not deactivate. You will not get a fault if you do not turn on the car. Think about it: How could the car "know" that you had disconnected the front seat sensor if it is not "awake"?
A fault code will only show that the sensor had been disconnected.
I have removed the seats from many cars with SRS airbags, and it is not a problem.
Still, it's up to you.
#7
Re: I want to remove the front passenger seat
Didn't the OP said that he wanted to carry cargo? I am assuming that he wants to transport them to somewhere in the car and not just let them sit there.
If that is the case, then he'll not only have to start the car, but drive it as well without the air bags!!
If that is the case, then he'll not only have to start the car, but drive it as well without the air bags!!
#8
Re: I want to remove the front passenger seat
Ah, you're correct. My bad.
I had forgotten that part.
Still, a fault from one sensor, or air bag will (should) not disable the entire system. That would be a really stupid way to design it.
If you did get a SRS light, an indy mechanic can clear the code for you (for a "nominal charge", of course)
I had forgotten that part.
Still, a fault from one sensor, or air bag will (should) not disable the entire system. That would be a really stupid way to design it.
If you did get a SRS light, an indy mechanic can clear the code for you (for a "nominal charge", of course)
#9
Re: I want to remove the front passenger seat
its perfectly safe to disconnect them as long it done properly as per service manual
the connection will shorted the link and regisiter as fault in the SRS unit permenently
upon replacing back the connector, everything normalise except the fault regisitered
its fine to drive without the airbag except its not able to perform when required
that may infringed with the insurance issue upon accident occurs
if you're going take such risk just for mere transporting something
i'll advice you to get a proper transportation as the risk and time dismantle it not worth it
the connection will shorted the link and regisiter as fault in the SRS unit permenently
upon replacing back the connector, everything normalise except the fault regisitered
its fine to drive without the airbag except its not able to perform when required
that may infringed with the insurance issue upon accident occurs
if you're going take such risk just for mere transporting something
i'll advice you to get a proper transportation as the risk and time dismantle it not worth it
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