Cruise Control HCH '06
#11
Re: Cruise Control HCH '06
Originally Posted by nimbus2k
I'm not sure I'm understanding what the point is of "constantly" regulating the speed with the accel/decel buttons if you're (also) using the cruise control. I thought the concept was "set it and forget it" for best FE.
But a new car should not be driven at the same speed for an extended period of time.
Some people, like me, find it more comfortable to put both feet flat on the floor, one reason I like CC.
When using CC you can vary your speed by pressing the two buttons, one to accelerate, one to decelerate.
So, I think that when they say don't use CC when breaking in a new car they say that because CC is usually left at a constant speed.
But you can use CC and vary your speed.
Make sense?
#14
Re: Cruise Control HCH '06
Originally Posted by Kintak
Shouldn't cruise control help get into the elusive EV mode on the 2006 HCH?
#15
Re: Cruise Control HCH '06
Originally Posted by Kintak
Shouldn't cruise control help get into the elusive EV mode on the 2006 HCH?
I've done experiments on a flat road with cruise control set at 25 MPH. What I saw was a repeating cycle; the car would go into EV mode, the bars of assist would gradually increase as speed bled off (up to about 3 bars), then it would drop out of EV mode (because EV is not strong enough to hold 25 MPH on a flat road) for a few more seconds until speed increased a bit, then the cycle would repeat. Each cycle took about 5 seconds, it was a miniature pulse & glide Note that the CC is very good at holding a set speed, the speed increases/decreases were not enough to show a change on the speedometer, I could only tell they were happening by watching the instant MPG gauge.
What this showed is that the CC does use gentle enough throttle changes to engage EV, albeit not as good as a human can do (I can get 4-5 bars of assist in EV, the CC only gets 3 before it goes too far from what I saw). So I think the moral to the story is that a human concentrating on the technique can always do better than CC, but if you can't pay close attention to the assist/instant gauges and use a light foot, the CC can give you better mileage than you might get otherwise. It all depends on the skill and patience level of the driver.
#16
Re: Cruise Control HCH '06
I like to use CC as much as possible. In my experience with the HCH, the usual undulations of a flat road, such as overpasses or little 30 foot high hills, are enough to cause significant RPM changes with CC on. When driving at 70 with CC I typically get about 2300 RPM. When I hit an overpass the CC applies more throttle. The immediate reaction is about three bars of assist. Then within a couple of seconds the engine might rev up to 3000 and the assist disappears. At the top of the overpass and down the other side the opposite happens. The CC lets off the throttle. About three bars of regen kick in immediately. I hate when that happens because there's a bit of a lurch when regen suddenly kicks in. Then in a couple of seconds the CVT pulls down the RPMs and the regen disappears. If the descent is long and steep enough (not very long or very steep) the engine goes into coast mode (valves shut) with the FCD pegged at 100 MPG.
With such overpasses every few miles on the freeway there is enough variation in RPMs and engine load that I think there should be no issue with using CC during break in.
With such overpasses every few miles on the freeway there is enough variation in RPMs and engine load that I think there should be no issue with using CC during break in.
Last edited by ElanC; 01-12-2006 at 01:23 PM.
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