Warm up vehicle in the winter?
#1
Warm up vehicle in the winter?
Just wondering if people have been warming up (idling) their TCH in the colder weather. I drive a truck at work and they say the best way to warm it up is to drive it but it seems to me that it takes away from the life of the vehicle. Seems like a strain on the vehicle at -15 or more.
#2
Re: Warm up vehicle in the winter?
But you're assuming that simple idling imposes less "strain" on the engine, and this is probably not the case, especially if you're using the preferred 0w-20 oil. Remember, at idle, oil pressure will be very low, compared to when the engine is actually propelling the car. Gentle, reasonable, moderate driving will get the oil flowing where it's needed, and will help things heat up faster (including the transmission). Just don't flog it right out of the garage.
#3
Re: Warm up vehicle in the winter?
Your engine should be warmed up for at least 30 seconds before driving. You can let it warm up longer but remember that your car is designed to be moving. While there may be coolant running through the engine to keep it within temperature tolerances, other parts depend on airflow to stay cool. You could heat up (cook) your exhaust and catalytic systems to a temperature higher than they need to be, possibly causing problems in the long run.
Yes, warm up but don't leave it running to melt off five inches of snow.
Yes, warm up but don't leave it running to melt off five inches of snow.
#4
Re: Warm up vehicle in the winter?
But you're assuming that simple idling imposes less "strain" on the engine, and this is probably not the case, especially if you're using the preferred 0w-20 oil. Remember, at idle, oil pressure will be very low,
No, when you first start a cold engine the oil will be at the high viscosity (THICK) level. The second thing is that like a power stearing pump, your engine oil pump is sized to provide more than adequate flow even with the engine idling.
When the engine is above idle, 'way above idle, too much oil is pumped and must therefore be immediately bypassed back into the sump by the spring loaded pressure relief valve.
Horrible WASTE of fuel.
The newest Porsche 911 uses a variable speed electric motor to pump engine lubrication oil, more HP at WOT and improved FE.
compared to when the engine is actually propelling the car. Gentle, reasonable, moderate driving will get the oil flowing where it's needed, and will help things heat up faster (including the transmission). Just don't flog it right out of the garage.
No, when you first start a cold engine the oil will be at the high viscosity (THICK) level. The second thing is that like a power stearing pump, your engine oil pump is sized to provide more than adequate flow even with the engine idling.
When the engine is above idle, 'way above idle, too much oil is pumped and must therefore be immediately bypassed back into the sump by the spring loaded pressure relief valve.
Horrible WASTE of fuel.
The newest Porsche 911 uses a variable speed electric motor to pump engine lubrication oil, more HP at WOT and improved FE.
compared to when the engine is actually propelling the car. Gentle, reasonable, moderate driving will get the oil flowing where it's needed, and will help things heat up faster (including the transmission). Just don't flog it right out of the garage.
#5
Re: Warm up vehicle in the winter?
Your engine should be warmed up for at least 30 seconds before driving.
Why...explanation...??
You can let it warm up longer but remember that your car is designed to be moving.
Other than "free" cooling airflow through the radiator moving or not will make no difference to the engine.
While there may be coolant running through the engine to keep it within temperature tolerances, other parts depend on airflow to stay cool. You could heat up (cook) your exhaust and catalytic systems to a temperature higher than they need to be, possibly causing problems in the long run.
No, in modern cars your would have to have a serious level of emissions control systems failure in order to "cook" anything. And 95% of those failures would result in a warning light.
Yes, warm up but don't leave it running to melt off five inches of snow.
Why...explanation...??
You can let it warm up longer but remember that your car is designed to be moving.
Other than "free" cooling airflow through the radiator moving or not will make no difference to the engine.
While there may be coolant running through the engine to keep it within temperature tolerances, other parts depend on airflow to stay cool. You could heat up (cook) your exhaust and catalytic systems to a temperature higher than they need to be, possibly causing problems in the long run.
No, in modern cars your would have to have a serious level of emissions control systems failure in order to "cook" anything. And 95% of those failures would result in a warning light.
Yes, warm up but don't leave it running to melt off five inches of snow.
#7
Re: Warm up vehicle in the winter?
Gene is correct with his answer. Crank it and drive the car easy until warm. As long as you use 0w-20 or 5w-20 oil as specified, you will be fine.
Gene, one question for you.... Where did you purchase/find a group II+ oil in 0w-20? I use to use Havoline in 10w-40 a long time ago (use mobil 1 now) but I am not familar with the one that you are using.
Gene, one question for you.... Where did you purchase/find a group II+ oil in 0w-20? I use to use Havoline in 10w-40 a long time ago (use mobil 1 now) but I am not familar with the one that you are using.
#8
Re: Warm up vehicle in the winter?
There is zero need to warm up the car.
On cold days one will notice that the electric motor is used immediately upon startup. The engine is running but won't "rev up" when you accelerate.
After a minute or two the car will then use the engine to accelerate the car.
On cold days one will notice that the electric motor is used immediately upon startup. The engine is running but won't "rev up" when you accelerate.
After a minute or two the car will then use the engine to accelerate the car.
Last edited by n8kwx; 10-19-2008 at 05:51 PM.
#9
Re: Warm up vehicle in the winter?
You can let it warm up longer but remember that your car is designed to be moving. While there may be coolant running through the engine to keep it within temperature tolerances, other parts depend on airflow to stay cool. You could heat up (cook) your exhaust and catalytic systems to a temperature higher than they need to be, possibly causing problems in the long run.
#10
Re: Warm up vehicle in the winter?
I'd forgotten about that part of the programming of the HSD cars. It's even more noticeable in the Prius. In essence, the ECU won't let you run the ICE too fast while it's warming up.