Washing my TCH in the winter
#21
10-29-2008, 02:20 PM
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Re: Washing my TCH in the winter
Thanks for all the input guys. This weekend, and actually later next week look perfect for a good wash and wax.
As far as the wax I'll use, I'm going with the Meguiar's. Here's the thing, all I could find in stores is the "NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0." Is this what we're talking about, or an update?
As far as the wax I'll use, I'm going with the Meguiar's. Here's the thing, all I could find in stores is the "NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0." Is this what we're talking about, or an update?
Last edited by mikieboyblue; 10-30-2008 at 06:46 AM.
#22
10-29-2008, 02:29 PM
Re: Washing my TCH in the winter
Joe,
If you have a Harbor Freight near you, they carry Collinite 845 and 476S. If you go with NXT (another good option) use the paste version instead of the spray type. It will last a little longer.
If you have a Harbor Freight near you, they carry Collinite 845 and 476S. If you go with NXT (another good option) use the paste version instead of the spray type. It will last a little longer.
#24
10-29-2008, 03:20 PM
Re: Washing my TCH in the winter
Joe,
Visit any of the over the top detailing sites (autogeek, autopia, etc.) and see what the pros and **** autogeeks (me???) are putting on their cars (and their customers) for winter prep. Most use either Duragloss or Collinite with the later getting the nod about 60% of the time. Two coats of 476S layered about an hour or two apart will last most cars for the entire winter. These guys live in MI, MN, ND, WY and into Canada and understand cold very well.
The best part is that 476S, 845 and NXT are all fairly inexpensive (compared to a $175.00 tub of Fuzion...) and have a nice look to them, bead water like crazy and are not too difficult to apply.
Edit: If you would prefer NXT paste, I will send a can to you that has been used to wax my car one time. Didn't like it and went back to 845 topped with 476s for winter. It just sits lonely looking on my discard shelf....
Visit any of the over the top detailing sites (autogeek, autopia, etc.) and see what the pros and **** autogeeks (me???) are putting on their cars (and their customers) for winter prep. Most use either Duragloss or Collinite with the later getting the nod about 60% of the time. Two coats of 476S layered about an hour or two apart will last most cars for the entire winter. These guys live in MI, MN, ND, WY and into Canada and understand cold very well.
The best part is that 476S, 845 and NXT are all fairly inexpensive (compared to a $175.00 tub of Fuzion...) and have a nice look to them, bead water like crazy and are not too difficult to apply.
Edit: If you would prefer NXT paste, I will send a can to you that has been used to wax my car one time. Didn't like it and went back to 845 topped with 476s for winter. It just sits lonely looking on my discard shelf....
Last edited by GeorgiaHybrid; 10-29-2008 at 03:24 PM.
#26
10-30-2008, 10:56 AM
Re: Washing my TCH in the winter
Joe,
NXT acts like a sealant and has a very "bright" finish. I don't really like the looks but if I did, Duragloss 105 has a LOT longer lifespan than NXT. I do use sealants in the summer (Wolfgang or Klasse) and then top them with a beauty wax (carnauba) for looks. The wax brings out more of a "warm" look to the paint that I prefer.
Collinite 845 and 476S use a combination of carnauba wax and synthetic polymers that cross link as they cure and become harder. They combine the best of both worlds by being "warmer" than a pure sealant but harder and longer lasting than a pure carnauba wax. The drawback is they do not look as nice as a good "beauty" wax.
The problem with the nicer (read pretty) waxes is they need to be applied every 4 to 6 weeks or even more often if subjected to road salt, dirt and the constant washing that occurs during the winter.
Note!!! If you use 845 Liquid Insulator Wax, shake the crap out of the plastic bottle. It will separate while on the shelf and will need to be mixed well. Once you open the bottle there will be a "plug" of wax in the neck. Shove it back into the bottle and shake again. When mixed well it will be very thin and look like yellowish milk. Another item to mention is to ignore the chemical smell, it will go away.... Yes the "insulator" word above is correct. This wax was developed to prevent "flashovers" on power line insulators. Once the linemen figured out that it lasted all year and still had a shine, well you know car guys..
Collinite now has auto and marine waxes that mirror their other lines.
All of that is the long way around to saying Duragloss 105 appears to last longer if you like the "sealant" look than NXT and Collinite 845/476S will last longer than most other carnauba waxes if you like the "warm" look.
NXT acts like a sealant and has a very "bright" finish. I don't really like the looks but if I did, Duragloss 105 has a LOT longer lifespan than NXT. I do use sealants in the summer (Wolfgang or Klasse) and then top them with a beauty wax (carnauba) for looks. The wax brings out more of a "warm" look to the paint that I prefer.
Collinite 845 and 476S use a combination of carnauba wax and synthetic polymers that cross link as they cure and become harder. They combine the best of both worlds by being "warmer" than a pure sealant but harder and longer lasting than a pure carnauba wax. The drawback is they do not look as nice as a good "beauty" wax.
The problem with the nicer (read pretty) waxes is they need to be applied every 4 to 6 weeks or even more often if subjected to road salt, dirt and the constant washing that occurs during the winter.
Note!!! If you use 845 Liquid Insulator Wax, shake the crap out of the plastic bottle. It will separate while on the shelf and will need to be mixed well. Once you open the bottle there will be a "plug" of wax in the neck. Shove it back into the bottle and shake again. When mixed well it will be very thin and look like yellowish milk. Another item to mention is to ignore the chemical smell, it will go away.... Yes the "insulator" word above is correct. This wax was developed to prevent "flashovers" on power line insulators. Once the linemen figured out that it lasted all year and still had a shine, well you know car guys..
Collinite now has auto and marine waxes that mirror their other lines.All of that is the long way around to saying Duragloss 105 appears to last longer if you like the "sealant" look than NXT and Collinite 845/476S will last longer than most other carnauba waxes if you like the "warm" look.
#28
10-30-2008, 04:40 PM
Re: Washing my TCH in the winter
Minneapolis, MN here.... Salt on the roads??? Heck, by february, you'd swear that the asphalt was totally replaced with blocks of salt... Pure white - well - okay - Gray... ((Bleech!))
There are periods when I am not able to wash my car for 3 or 4 weeks or more due to the sub-zero or constant below freezing weather. When it does get washed, it's at a touch-less carwash..
My car sits in a heated parking ramp during the days at work but all the rest of the time it's outside - not garaged..
I will second the idea of giving her a really good coating of wax prior to the snow coming to stay...
There are periods when I am not able to wash my car for 3 or 4 weeks or more due to the sub-zero or constant below freezing weather. When it does get washed, it's at a touch-less carwash..
My car sits in a heated parking ramp during the days at work but all the rest of the time it's outside - not garaged..
I will second the idea of giving her a really good coating of wax prior to the snow coming to stay...
Anyway, enjoyed the city and can definately see why the brilliant folks there have created the skywalks in downtown. We enjoyed the chain of the lakes, and many other sights from inside the warm cozy rented Toyota Yaris. Minnihaha falls was mentined as a "must see" but, alas, there was NO water! HUH???? Minneapolis isn't desert? I see dry rivers here all the time. LOL..And now, back to the regular thread.
Here in AZ, we have to wash the car REAL early in the day during the summer, or the water drys on the car and spots before you can dry it off with a shammy. Our normal humidity can be 8-10% in summer. Joe, sorry I don't have any suggestions for you in the freezing cold, but wanted to show another side of the issue.
#29
10-30-2008, 06:41 PM
Re: Washing my TCH in the winter
Joe,
The 845 + topper of 476S should last until warmer weather comes back. You could also move to God's country instead of living in those frozen wastelands up north
The 845 + topper of 476S should last until warmer weather comes back. You could also move to God's country instead of living in those frozen wastelands up north
#30
10-31-2008, 05:08 AM
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Re: Washing my TCH in the winter
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