Dash warning lights on and car is sluggish after jump start.

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Old 05-02-2022, 09:13 AM
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Was there anything abnormal about the jump start? Reversed polarity cables?

With the car idling what is the voltage at the battery terminals?
Nothing unusual about the jump. I used a Costco power bank jump starter.
Voltage at idle just now started at 12.2 and gradually decreased to 11.84 before I ended the test.
 
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Old 05-02-2022, 09:26 AM
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Nothing unusual about the jump. I used a Costco power bank jump starter.
Voltage at idle just now started at 12.2 and gradually decreased to 11.84 before I ended the test.
That would confirm a lack of charging at idle.

Rev and hold 2000 rpm for 30 seconds. Record battery voltage at the terminals.

 
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Old 05-02-2022, 10:27 AM
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That would confirm a lack of charging at idle.

Rev and hold 2000 rpm for 30 seconds. Record battery voltage at the terminals.
12.17 volts at idle after reving to 2k rpm x30 sec
 
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Old 05-02-2022, 10:53 AM
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12.17 volts at idle after reving to 2k rpm x30 sec
Sorry. I guess I should have been more explicit:

Rev to 2000 rpm for 30 seconds.
Record voltage
Return to idle.

You may need to mount the voltmeter such that you can see it while holding rpm @ 2000.

 
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Old 05-02-2022, 10:56 AM
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Sorry. I guess I should have been more explicit:

Rev to 2000 rpm for 30 seconds.
Record voltage
Return to idle.

You may need to mount the voltmeter such that you can see it while holding rpm @ 2000.
I'll get wifey to help in pm and get back to you. Thanks!
 
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Old 05-02-2022, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: Dash warning lights on and car is sluggish after jump start.

Originally Posted by S Keith
Sorry. I guess I should have been more explicit:

Rev to 2000 rpm for 30 seconds.
Record voltage
Return to idle.

You may need to mount the voltmeter such that you can see it while holding rpm @ 2000.
14.59 volts at 2k rpm after 30 sec.
I noticed as soon as I got home from work and put it in idle, all the dash lights dimmed. Got 44.4mpg after 25 mile fwy drive home.
 

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Old 05-02-2022, 07:52 PM
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14.59 volts at 2k rpm after 30 sec.
I noticed as soon as I got home from work and put it in idle, all the dash lights dimmed. Got 44.4mpg after 25 mile fwy drive home.
14.59V establishes that the DC-DC converter is working in roughly the 1600-3500rpm range when the IMA motor is outputting an acceptable voltage. Above that, it's too high and below that, it's too low.

This tells me the IMA battery is isolated from the HV system.

You likely need professional code reading capabilities to get to the bottom.

Alternatively, you can DIY with:

https://99mpg.com/mikestips/readingtheblinkcod/
(to blink the codes, the codes on that page aren't for your car)

and get a 24 hour subscription to the manuals for $25 at:
https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/logon.aspx
 
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Old 05-02-2022, 11:56 PM
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14.59V establishes that the DC-DC converter is working in roughly the 1600-3500rpm range when the IMA motor is outputting an acceptable voltage. Above that, it's too high and below that, it's too low.

This tells me the IMA battery is isolated from the HV system.

You likely need professional code reading capabilities to get to the bottom.

Alternatively, you can DIY with:

https://99mpg.com/mikestips/readingtheblinkcod/
(to blink the codes, the codes on that page aren't for your car)

and get a 24 hour subscription to the manuals for $25 at:
https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/logon.aspx
Cool. I'll give the blinks a try. Thanks again! Is it the same pins on the hch3 as on the Insight that need to be shorted?
 

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Old 05-03-2022, 01:41 PM
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Cool. I'll give the blinks a try. Thanks again! Is it the same pins on the hch3 as on the Insight that need to be shorted?
Yes. It's the OBDII standard.
 
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Old 05-03-2022, 08:08 PM
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I just tried to get the blink codes and was able to get 85 and 56 before the 12v battery ran out of juice. I'm trickle charging it again.
 


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