Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Well, its finally happened; Ford has issued a recall for the MECS pump failures. Just got the email from NHTSA about it.

NHTSA Campaign ID Number : 14V526
About time!! Mine was replaced a few years ago and the new one is whining like mad right now too :/

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Will, thanks for posting.

I just read the recall notice and there is a provision for "owner refunds" to recover the cost of the pump on DIY repair. So save your receipts for the MECS pump.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Haven't seen it on the Ford owner site but apparently Ford will start issuing the notices around mid-end October.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Great news. I've got about 72,000 on my original pump and it makes me nervous.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

So when will they issue a recall for the traction battery blend door?

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

^^ Probably never. It's not safety related like the MECS pump is.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

This is good news. I have ~75K and am having some power (HP) issues with the car. In the afternoon pulling out after work I normally have a pretty low battery. When I turn out of the parking lot, on occasion (maybe once a month) it's like I have no power. I have to slam the accelerator to the floor to get it to go. A bit scary as I could be pulling out in front of someone where I would expect normal power to get me out safely. Is this issue I describe related to the MECS pump?

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Part 573 Safety Recall Report 14V-526



OMB Control No.: 2127-0004


Manufacturer Name : Ford Motor Company

Submission Date : SEP 02,2014

NHTSA Recall No. : 14V-526

Manufacturer Recall No. : 14S19



Manufacturer Information :


Manufacturer Name : Ford Motor Company

Address : 330 Town Center Drive

SUITE 500 Dearborn MI 48126-2738

Company phone : 1-866-436-7332


Population :


Number of potentially involved : 70,209

Estimated percentage with defect : NR


Vehicle Information :


Vehicle : 2005-2008 Ford Escape

Vehicle Type : Body Style : ALL

Power Train : HYBRID ELECTRIC

These vehicles are not produced in VIN order. Information as to the applicability of

this action to specific vehicles can best be obtained by either calling Ford’s toll-free line (1-866-436-7332) or by contacting a local Ford or Lincoln dealer who can

Descriptive Information : obtain specific information regarding the vehicles from the Ford On-line

Automotive Service Information System (OASIS) database.

Not sequential Vins (website will not allow box below to be checked). Production Dates : OCT 13, 2003 - JUN 20, 2008


VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) Range


Begin : NR End : NR Not sequential VINs

Vehicle : 2006-2008 Mercury Mariner

Vehicle Type : Body Style : ALL

Power Train : HYBRID ELECTRIC

These vehicles are not produced in VIN order. Information as to the applicability of

this action to specific vehicles can best be obtained by either calling Ford’s toll-free line (1-866-436-7332) or by contacting a local Ford or Lincoln dealer who can

Descriptive Information : obtain specific information regarding the vehicles from the Ford On-line

Automotive Service Information System (OASIS) database.

Not sequential Vins (website will not allow box below to be checked). Production Dates : JUN 10, 2005 - JUN 20, 2008


The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573


Part 573 Safety Recall Report 14V-526 Page 2



VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) Range


Begin : NR End : NR Not sequential VINs


Description of Defect :


Description of the Defect : In some of the affected vehicles, the original Motor Electronics Coolant (MEC) Pump may wear out and fail, resulting in a high temperature condition within the motor electronics system. This would invoke a Failure Mode Effects Management (FMEM) strategy that can result in a sudden partial or full loss of motive power in order to protect the vehicle powertrain. After a sufficient cool-down time, the vehicle will restart.

Ford is not aware of any reports of accident or injury related to this condition. Description of the Safety Risk : The vehicle may experience a sudden partial or full loss of motive power while

driving caused by the FMEM strategy during a high temperature condition within the electronics cooling system. If this occurs, the vehicle’s braking and steering systems will continue to operate normally. However, this condition

can result in a sudden stall-like condition while driving. An engine stall without warning while driving may increase the risk of a crash.

Description of the Cause : Supplier quality issues have resulted in some of the MEC pumps being built with

motor brushes that experience a high wear rate. Brushes that wear prematurely may eventually result in a loss of pump function.

Identification of Any Warning that can Occur : A partial or full loss of motive power is accompanied by audible

and visual indicators in the instrument cluster.


Supplier Identification : Component Manufacturer Name : Robert Bosch LLC



Address : 15000 North Haggerty Road

Plymouth MI 48170

Country : US


The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573


Part 573 Safety Recall Report 14V-526 Page 3



Chronology :


April 2014: Ford identified reports related to driveability issues, instrument cluster messages instructing the driver to stop the vehicle, and loss of power.

May 2014: This issue was opened in Ford’s Critical Concern Review Group (CCRG) for analysis.

June – August 2014: Ford continued to review field data to understand the cause of the driveability and loss of power reports. It was found that variability in the material used for brushes inside the Motor Electronics Coolant Pump could result in an elevated and increasing rate of pump failure. It was found that certain pumps containing the potentially suspect brushes could fail prematurely after many years in service.

On August 25, 2014, Ford’s Field Review Committee reviewed the concern and approved a field action.


Description of Remedy :


Description of Remedy Program : Owners will be notified by mail and instructed to take their vehicle(s) to a Ford or Lincoln dealer to have the Motor Electronics Coolant Pump inspected. If the original equipment pump is found, it will be replaced with an improved brushless pump. If the pump has already been replaced in service with the brushless pump, no additional repair is required. There will be no charge to owners for this service.

Ford’s general reimbursement plan for the cost of remedies paid for by vehicle owners prior to notification of a safety recall was provided to the Agency on February 20, 2013.

The ending date for reimbursement eligibility for the cost of remedies paid for by vehicle owners per Ford’s general reimbursement plan is April 30,

2015.

How Remedy Component Differs from Recalled Component : The replacement pump is a brushless motor design.

Identify How/When Recall Condition was Corrected in Production : NR


Recall Schedule :


Description of Recall Schedule : NR

Planned Dealer Notification Date : SEP 02, 2014 - SEP 02, 2014

Planned Owner Notification Date : OCT 27, 2014 - OCT 27, 2014

* NR - Not Reported


The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

what do i do if i dont have a receipt, can i use my bank statement?..... i hope i get my 300+ $$ back

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

So, looks like this recall isn't recognized by Ford Canada. I talked to my dealership today and they have no information regarding this recall.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Heads up, recall notices were mailed. I received mine today.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Ford Canada is clueless about it. I talked to my dealership and they have no idea what i'm talking about. Guess Canadians don't count in this particular recall.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

My letter said unless your dash light is on, no soup for you - at least until more parts are available. A second notice is supposedly gonna be sent when parts are in.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Pretty much what my letter said too. "Keep monitoring your dash lights", I'm sure that will help if the pump fails and my car stalls. Thanks again Ford.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

I haven't received my notice yet but I do see it as pending for my vehicle on owner.ford.com.

So what happens with those of us who have already replaced the MECS pump and just need the inspection and sign off? Any mention of that in the recall notice?

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Yea, it say if you had it replaced already, they still want to look at it to ensure the repair is up to snuff. It also says they will reimburse for the cost of the MEC pump only - give your receipt to the dealer.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump- Waste of Time
 

Don't get excited folks-- if you have EVER replaced the original pump, you will be sent on your way by the dealer without a new pump or any satisfaction. This will ONLY replace your old, original pump under the recall. If you paid dealer for repair, you can get reimbursed- it you just read this forum and did it yourself, you are absolutely out of luck.

I did the whole 9 yards- scheduled the appointment, got a special call to the dealer from Ford customer service, had an ACTIVE MECS pump failure warning code in the computer, and three recent "stop now" incidents-- and I left with an estimate for another $650 for a replacement pump.

Recall is a complete waste of time for those who have ever replaced a pump- unless you saved the old original and can put it back on real quick before you make your recall appointment.

Gary

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Should have added something I did learn though while at the dealer. The pump failure code can also be triggered from a failure of the engine thermostat/sensor that also creates the catastrophic engine shutdown for MECS pump- it seems that sensor doubles as the transmission coolant overheat sensor that is also triggered by an MECS pump failure. You wouldn't think so, but the thermostat/sensor may be the issue rather than a failed pump. Since the thermostat/sensor is as intermittent as the MECS pump, that sort of makes sense. Since the thermostat is integral to the housing, and also includes the sensor-- that code could be also caused by either the thermostat or the sensor.

Regardless, I am changing the thermostat and sensor tomorrow and hoping for the best- after 3 replacement pump failures. At 210k and no other issues other than normal wear and tear and some expensive front wheel bearings, perhaps that is the issue. No one will ride in the thing besides me anyway now with the random shutdowns, so it is worth a try.

Gary

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Rcvd the notice a few days ago. Mailed off a letter with receipt (from 2009) for the new design pump. I replaced my MECS Pump in 2009 at 51,000 miles after noticing on this site that people were experiencing failures at about 50,000 miles. Since this car was a commuter car for my wife and the distances are long out here and very cold in the winter, I didn't want her to get stuck out in the open or be without her daily wheels.

I now have 211,000 miles on the car and its running fine (except for the axle knocking noted elsewhere!).

Will let you know how Ford handles this one since it was a proactive replacement.

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Got my letter about two weeks ago. I had the work done by the dealership. They required an inspection to verify that it was still the one that was replaced. After that verification, it took about a week for them to get a check cut for me. The full amount of my repair was refunded.

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Still haven't received the recall letter, although I can see that my VIN is part of the recall on https://vinrcl.safercar.gov/vin/.

Wondering if I need the recall letter or if I should just take the FEH to the dealer. I've already replaced the MECS pump myself so just need the dealer inspection to get the reimbursement process started. Reimbursement window ends in April '15.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Received my check for cost of MECS pump + 1gal. coolant under Ford general
reimbursement plan. My Ford dealer did not verity the replacement MECS pump.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Richard,

Can you give me a few details about how that worked?

Did you get a recall notice but not do the inspection at the dealer?

How did you apply under the Ford general reimbursement plan? Is there a form somewhere? Did you have to submit the receipt for the MECS pump?

Thanks for any info?

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Don

Got a recall notice and went to dealer to submitted MECS pump + coolant receipt.
There is no form have to go thru dealer. 2 weeks to get check. My Ford dealer did not verity the replacement MECS pump service writer unsure of policy.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

I got tired of waiting for the recall notice and called the dealer today. They confirmed the recall on my VIN, scheduled a service appointment for the inspection, and told me how to start the reimbursement process directly through Ford.

The only reason for the inspection is to close out the recall on my vehicle. Otherwise the recall stays pending if I sold the FEH or had it in for service.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Just some info that may help those who have had the recall work performed previously:

I called the customer service number on the recall notice and was told that a dealer service center (not any QuickLane centers) needs to inspect and verify the work. If the work done is correct, the Service Manager needs to file the necessary refund paperwork. It should take approximately two weeks to receive the check.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

I had my appointment at the dealer yesterday. The inspection takes just a few minutes obviously, and I got a service invoice saying "HAS UPDATRD PUMP". I was told to submit the service invoice and my original receipt for the pump ($189) to Ford Motor Company, P.O. Box 6251, Dearborn, MI 48121-6251 and may take upto 60 days for the reimbursement. I'm sending the paperwork via Priority Mail with tracking.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

I took my FEH in for basic maintenance work and the MECS recall. I did not have any warning lights or issue with my MECS pump even at 121,000 miles. The service manager read the recall to me and essentially stated "it's not free unless the warning light is on". I will be sending my invoice to FORD for review.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

NHTSA Recall No. 14V-526
If the original equipment pump is found, it will be replaced with an improved brushless pump.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

As OT7 said, this is an "inspect and replace" recall. Nothing in the recall notice about a warning light having to be on.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

My MECS pump failed in the summer of 2013 at 60k miles. I brought my 2008 Ford Escape to my dealer in MA in July of 2013. $600 later it was replaced and I haven't had an issue since.

When the recall notice came out this year, I went back to the dealer and within a week I had a check fully reimbursing me for the repair. :thumbs_up

AAA sent me an e-mail today regarding the recall, obviously not knowing I had already taken care of the issue. But in reading the e-mail, I saw that it mentioned Ford would "replace the original Motor Electronics Coolant (MEC) Pump with an improved brushless pump, free of charge.

So it got me wondering: how new is this "brushless pump". Would it have been put in my Escape 18 months ago? I tend to think it would have been the older model, and thus susceptible to the same failure later on? In which case, I would need to pay for the repair once again? Granted, if the original MECS life is the same, i won't have to worry about it for 50-60k miles, but even so...

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

AFAIK there were just two MECS pumps, the original and the improved. I replaced my original pump in Aug 2011 and just had it inspected at the dealer for the recall. It is the newer pump. So your 2013 pump has to be the new one.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Cool...thanks!

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Once again Ford dealers let me down... I took my 2006 Escape to the dealer for the recall and they wouldn't replace it because there were no trouble codes in the computer. I explained to them that the pump has stuck before and we banged on it to get it going as my daughter who uses it is 2 hours away at college. They claimed there were no codes in the computer. Well I had just replaced the battery about a month earlier and that erases all computer codes! So now I have to send my daughter back to school 2 hours away with a car destined to fail and the dealer won't complete the recall. Real nice Ford...

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Today I received a check from Ford for the replacement cost of my MECS Pump. Since I did the work it was only for the pump without labor cost.

Background: In 2009 I noted on this website that MECS Pumps were failing at about 50,000 miles and that there was a new design MECS Pump available.

When my Escape Hybrid went over 50K I bought one from Gaudin Ford (SilverStateFordparts.com) and replaced the original pump myself using the Ford Shop Manuals to do the work.

When the recall notice came I sent off a copy of the receipt with a letter explaining what I had done and that it was done pre-emptively given the history on this website.

I'm impressed.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

I did the same but still waiting on my reimbursement.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

I mailed mine on November 7th. So a few days less than the advertised 60 days.

PS I've had very good service from Silverstate Ford Parts. Their parts people have been very responsive in identifying the parts I need. Their prices are very competitive. Good folks out there.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Totally agree about Silverstate Ford Parts, look there first.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

Just to tell of my experience, I received the recall notice a few weeks ago from Ford (Canada) and I called my local Ford dealer here in Abbotsford (MSA Ford) to see what they would do for me since I had already replaced the MECS pump myself back in July. They told me immediately that they would book the vehicle in and all the technician had to do was verify that the pump was installed and to bring in my receipt. I had purchased the DORMAN pump off of Amazon as it was about $100 cheaper than the local parts places. The lady in service said it was the first Amazon receipt that had been submitted to her, but she said it would be fine. I was in/out of the dealer in 15mins. Reimbursement cheque arrived for full amount that I paid 5 days later. Pretty happy with how it went.

Re: Ford recalling 2005-2008 FEH for MECS Pump
 

I had wondered if Ford would ask me to take it in and have it inspected.

They didn't, so I'm quite happy. I suppose because I had purchased my replacement pump from an authorized Ford Dealer they skipped that step. (www.silverstatefordparts.com)

At any rate so long as you have legitimate receipts, just sending a check is their least costly completion of the recall effort.

Nice job Ford!