Sales Halted and Production Stopped.
#51
Re: Sales Halted and Production Stopped.
You can start believing now. See my post above.
The BTO reflash is now part of the recall program 90L, and late model TCH's are on the list for that program. According to my dealer, my 09 TCH is on the list, and the mailing of the notices started on Monday.
#52
Re: Sales Halted and Production Stopped.
Trust me, your TCH is NOT on the 90L recall list for a BTO "reflash", Toyota/etc claims that capability/featrue already exists for the HSD series.
#53
Re: Sales Halted and Production Stopped.
I know that you are earnest, but at this point:
1. I am taking my dealer's service mgr at his word when he told me that he looked up my VIN and found it on the list.
2. As you read here, I have had the floor mat UA problem for sure, and whatever feature exists on my car dis not prevent it.
3. I have tested my car's ability to cut fuel on simultaneous accelerator and brake pedal application, and it doesn't do BOT for me.
After the fix tomorrow, I will test again and report.
Jack
#54
Re: Sales Halted and Production Stopped.
Willard,
I know that you are earnest, but at this point:
1. I am taking my dealer's service mgr at his word when he told me that he looked up my VIN and found it on the list.
2. As you read here, I have had the floor mat UA problem for sure, and whatever feature exists on my car dis not prevent it.
3. I have tested my car's ability to cut fuel on simultaneous accelerator and brake pedal application, and it doesn't do BOT for me.
After the fix tomorrow, I will test again and report.
Jack
I know that you are earnest, but at this point:
1. I am taking my dealer's service mgr at his word when he told me that he looked up my VIN and found it on the list.
2. As you read here, I have had the floor mat UA problem for sure, and whatever feature exists on my car dis not prevent it.
3. I have tested my car's ability to cut fuel on simultaneous accelerator and brake pedal application, and it doesn't do BOT for me.
After the fix tomorrow, I will test again and report.
Jack
And by the way, with the PSD, the ICE holding a high RPM cognizant with the gas pedal position does not necessarily mean there is DRIVE to the axles. Just as the ICE can run in neutral and the car not move also means the ICE can run at elevated RPM and....not move.
#55
Re: Sales Halted and Production Stopped.
I do not doubt that your TCH is on the 90L recall list ("Service campaign"), just not for the BTO reflash. Note that I did not say your TCH has a BTO capability, just that Toyota/etc believes it does.
And by the way, with the PSD, the ICE holding a high RPM cognizant with the gas pedal position does not necessarily mean there is DRIVE to the axles. Just as the ICE can run in neutral and the car not move also means the ICE can run at elevated RPM and....not move.
And by the way, with the PSD, the ICE holding a high RPM cognizant with the gas pedal position does not necessarily mean there is DRIVE to the axles. Just as the ICE can run in neutral and the car not move also means the ICE can run at elevated RPM and....not move.
And to make myself more clear, they DID say specifically that I will get the flash tomorrow, and when I say that BOT does not work satisfactorily for me at present, I AM talking about power to the wheels, not merely RPM.
Stay tuned for breaking (or is that "braking") news.
I will report on developments tomorrow afternoon.
Last edited by Smilin' Jack; 02-11-2010 at 10:25 PM. Reason: typo
#57
Re: Sales Halted and Production Stopped.
>>Single source reporting and I'm not buying it.
Well, how about a second source. From the NY Times:
The company will install a brake override system on the affected Camry, Avalon, and Lexus ES 350, IS 350 and IS 250. This system cuts engine power in case the accelerator and brake pedals are applied at the same time. The system already exists on the Prius and other hybrids.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/bu...questions.html
Well, how about a second source. From the NY Times:
The company will install a brake override system on the affected Camry, Avalon, and Lexus ES 350, IS 350 and IS 250. This system cuts engine power in case the accelerator and brake pedals are applied at the same time. The system already exists on the Prius and other hybrids.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/bu...questions.html
#58
Re: Sales Halted and Production Stopped.
As per my experiment, I don't believe we have the product.
I don't put a lot of weight into what the media says. Chances are they're either copying other's research or not completely aware of all the facts.
I don't put a lot of weight into what the media says. Chances are they're either copying other's research or not completely aware of all the facts.
#59
More Mud
It seems that there may be more mud being slung...I fear this ain't over yet.
Headline reads "Toyota Used Ex-Regulators to Help Kill Probes"
Read the story here:
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/co...%2F19355607%2F
Headline reads "Toyota Used Ex-Regulators to Help Kill Probes"
Read the story here:
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/co...%2F19355607%2F
#60
Re: Sales Halted and Production Stopped.
TCH and Prius escape this issue by virtue of being made in Japan, not by being drive-by-wire.